Winnipeg’s mayoral candidates and the faith community; questions and answers

 

How will Winnipeg’s new mayor engage the city’s faith communities? That’s the question posed to candidates in late September. 

I reached out to local faith community leaders for specific issues they wanted to see addressed by the candidates. They came up with three questions. 

First, knowing the contributions made by faith groups to help the marginal and vulnerable in the city, what would the candidates do as mayor to recognize and support those efforts? 

Second, what would they do to address and combat antisemitism and Islamophobia? 

And third, what could the city do to help congregations with aging buildings, especially in the core, maintain these buildings so they could continue to serve people in the area? 

Candidates who replied were Shaun Loney, Rick Shone, Glen Murray, Chris Clacio, Scott Gillingham, Rana Bokhari, Jenny Motkaluk and Kevin Klein. Below find their full responses. Their edited responses were published in the Winnipeg Free Press on October 8. 

Shaun Loney

I'm an active member at St. Mary's Road United Church.  I also attend Indigenous ceremonies regularly including at the Sandy Saulteaux Centre near Beausejour.  

My job as Mayor will be to help us see our assets in the City to make measurable progress on the issues that we're struggling with but we need new and modern tools to connect what we have to what we need. 

The question is, what role can our faith communities play in helping the City address issues like homelessness and poverty and what does that look like in 2022, here in Winnipeg. 

I want to partner with faith communities to help Winnipeg emerge out of an old paradigm where we treat people living in poverty as though there is something wrong with them and to see they have been interacting with failed systems and outdated institutions. 

The way I see it, Winnipeg's defining issue is our ability to connect the people who most need the work with the work that most needs to be done.  Social enterprises lean into a business model that embeds love and compassion into our economics.  They hire people with barriers to employment.  As Mayor, I'd love to partner with faith communities who are struggling with underutilized church buildings to see employment opportunities emerge for new Canadians, Indigenous and others left out of the labour market. 

How about a few faith communities with underutilized buildings working with the City to see new housing opportunities for women getting out of jail and those same women being able to work in a coffee shop on the main level? 

How about an Islamic community hosting a social enterprise that hires refugees to paint? One week it's completing painting jobs that have been contracted by the City and the next it's working on getting a driver's license or learning English. 

We can begin to see "problems" like underutilized buildings or refugee unemployment as opportunities when we take as asset-based approach and see the potential in each other. 

The outcomes generated by ventures like these—including providing supportive housing for those living on our streets—have important financial benefits to our overburdened emergency services such as police, fire and ambulance.  As Mayor, I will modernize how nonprofits and emergency service providers partner with each other to recognize the important financial benefits that nonprofits have in lowering the workloads. 

How about a church hiring people with physical disabilities to visit lonely seniors who are regularly calling 911 out of sheer loneliness?  The Winnipeg Fire and Paramedic Service would have a financial interest in the impacts that this activity would have on their daily dispatches.   

These social enterprise activities would have positive revenue implications for faith communities that can add to their donations.  Faith communities already use social enterprise strategies—selling tickets to a fall supper or a musical put on by members of the congregation. 

Others, such as MCC, sponsoring thrift shops to do social good.  Let's do a lot more of this, in new and interesting ways.  As Mayor, I will make this a clear option for faith communities to partner with the City to work together to solve our most stubborn problems. 

Antisemitism and Islamophobia are indeed growing problems. In 2015, when PM Harper announced a snitch line to report "barbaric cultural practises" my partner Fiona and I organized an event at the Central Mosque.  We expected 30 people to show up, to show some love for our Islamic neighbours—and 300 showed up. Here's the news of the event in the Winnipeg Free Press and another from Global TV.  As Mayor, I want to be very active in helping Winnipeggers in embracing diversity of all kinds to see the potential in each other.   

Rick Shone

I know, from experience, that faith groups play a huge role in the function of our society. I grew up in the Presbyterian Church and was a youth leader into my university days. I went to a Christian Reformed school and a Mennonite high school (MBCI) and completed a minor in religious studies at the U of M. The values of these communities have shaped and informed the person I am today. 

Many faith groups are so active in the wider community and all the efforts of these volunteers makes a difference. I would love to see the city partner more with faith groups to address social issues. When I decided to run for mayor, I knew that if the city could develop better partnerships with faith groups, biz groups, neighbourhood associations, etc. we could achieve so much more as a team when we work together to solve these challenges. 

I currently sit on the board of the West End Biz and have been on the board of the Central Neighbourhoods Association, so I have seen first-hand the struggle it can be for organizations when partnering with the city. 

Winnipeg must be a city where all people feel safe and supported. This is my goal and I do not support any type of hate. In our household, my wife and I have raised our kids to respect others. We have raised them not to judge, to get to know people and their stories. We have many friends from both of these communities but there are also so many others who do not feel supported and safe in Winnipeg. 

My vision is to live in a city with a heart, one that supports and accepts others. It starts with education and then creating opportunities from different ethnic backgrounds, faiths, etc. to be able to meet, mix and get to know one another.  

The question of older buildings is is a great one I've thought of often as I've seen our aging members and Presbyterian churches. When it comes to upgrading/renovating, etc. I do think the city can be much more expedient in granting permits and ensuring that certain things remain grandfathered so as to not trigger costly upgrades. 

Many congregations are realizing that they must use the building more than just on Sundays or service days. They are indeed perfect buildings that can be used for community gatherings of all kinds, including City of Winnipeg leisure guide programs. Day care, weddings and many other functions can be held in church buildings. These programs can help pay for rent and upgrades to the building to ensure that they remain prominent in the community for a long time to come. 

Glen Murray 

Many of the best social outreach programs in our city are run by faith-based organizations. It is integral that the city reduce and remove roadblocks that prevent these organizations from fulfilling their mission. Together we can work to achieve better outcomes for groups looking to make an impact. 

As a member of a community that has been historically marginalized and attacked, I personally understand the challenges prejudice and hate can cause. It is important that the Mayor always be on the front lines, combating all types of hate in our City. We must ensure Winnipeg is always a welcoming, accepting and open place for people of all faiths. 

It’s important that we always appreciate that Winnipeg has many beautiful historic buildings. While the city cannot engage in a broad scale program to restore privately-owned buildings, we can and must always play a role in ensuring that we have beautiful public spaces in good repair. I am open to hearing all ideas from community leaders for how the city can help. 

Chris Clacio 

Thank you for your email and the questions I've been meaning to engage with the faith groups for many years, but I've been personally unaware of how to do that. 

As Mayor I would start by visiting every faith group in Winnipeg to discuss how the city of Winnipeg and the Office of the Mayor could do better engagement to reach out to the different groups in our city and include them in the civic process within city hall. 

After the first initial meetings with every single faith group, I would set up a meeting with all the leaders of the faith groups I meet with to begin the dialogue and discussions to address our relatives that are struggling and need support in our city. 

I do see and believe that going forwards in the post-covid world where we exist in the city of Winnipeg needs different faith groups to be at the table and be involved in the solutions that the city could partner up to address topics of concern in Winnipeg. 

Early in the election I made an announcement that I will rebrand the Office of Public Engagement into the Office of Civic Engagement. What makes this office different from the current form is if you as a resident or as a group of residents have an initiative or project you want to do in your neighbourhood you would reach out to this division, and they would connect you with your local councilors and specific department staff to help fund and implement the program. 

The best summary of how this office would operate would be what in the municipal sector is called a civic innovation lab which is based on social innovation labs. The second part of my announcement was the creation of a four-year participatory budgeting process.  

As mayor I would work with both the Jewish and Muslim citizens within our wards and neighbourhoods to address all forms of antisemitism and Islamophobia within our city. Over my 7 years working with urban indigenous young people in the inner city of Winnipeg, one important gift they have taught me about working alongside other citizens who I myself don't represent or speak for is to first get to know the citizens that come from the Jewish and Muslim communities. 

During my time helping and supporting urban indigenous young people in the city it was through always showing up every Friday at 6pm since August 2014 at 470 Selkirk Ave. At the Indigenous Family Centre that I was able to connect with and see different citizens from all walks of life coming together to "stop the violence and build community'' 52 times for 9 years straight. 

The only way I know how to make all citizens safe is to see more investments within the city go towards recreational, museums, parks, pools, and libraries services. This is the only way I believe we can improve our citizens' safety. 

There are many things the city can do to help different groups maintain and utilize these old church buildings so they can continue to serve all citizens. The difficulty at the moment is all about accessibility for citizen-based organizations to work in collaboration with the city to better coordinate with all stakeholders to implement the initiatives which is why the Office of Civic Engagement would be an asset in organizing with all faith groups, Jewish, Muslim, and Christian based organizations within the city. 

This would allow for easier communication with city staff, mayor's office, your city councillor, and the citizens to design, develop, and evaluate city services for aging church buildings.  

I have a complicated relationship within my life related to my faith and it wasn't until the pandemic began and my own journey of reconciliation of showing up every Friday and helping urban indigenous young people building up the neighbourhoods of the mature and inner city for almost 7-8 years. 

My family immigrated from the Philippines during the time of martial law being placed by the federal government back in 1974. My Mom had arrived here in 1982; 10 years prior to my birth in June 1992. Growing up here on Turtle Island; Winnipeg no one in my family ever explained to me about how to speak Tagalog, the history of the Philippines, or my family's relationship with Roman Catholicism. All I knew growing up was that I was non-practicing Catholic and I had seen my own immediate and extended family members always following prayer. 

As I attended University to study politics I had joined several atheist, agnostic, philosophical student groups trying to figure out whether I believe in those beliefs. When the Truth and Reconciliation Commission released their final report back in 2015, I had already been learning from many urban indigenous young people how indigenous knowledge had been systematically been misrepresented or excluded in many places within our city. As the pandemic grew my relationship to the Meet Me at The Bell Tower slowed down where I was always connecting with different citizen-based organizations.  

June 2022 that was the year I turned 30 years old, reflected on my life (and lived experiences), and learned more about my relationship to my own faith. I still consider myself a non-practicing Catholic but now I understand a little bit about my mom's family relationship to Roman Catholicism through learning about the colonial process that happened in the Philippines by the Spanish from 1565 to 1898 and the United States from 1902 to 1946. 

As part of the self reflection of learning about all this history of my family's homeland and its similar process that happened here to First Nations, Metis, and Inuit peoples. I can now see why I had struggled to figure my relationship to a higher authority. 

Scott Gillingham 

As a former pastor for over 20 years, I have a deep appreciation for the important contributions faith communities make to the health and strength of our city. The congregations I led were always actively involved as partners with organizations like Winnipeg (now Manitoba) Harvest, downtown missions; Union, Siloam and Lighthouse, Adult and Teen Challenge, helping refugees and other newcomers to Winnipeg. We were intentionally focused on building up our city.  

The theme of my campaign is “Uniting to Build a Stronger Winnipeg. Government is not the answer to every challenge facing the people of our city, nor can government alone do all that needs to be done to address the poverty, addiction and homelessness in Winnipeg. For more than a century in Winnipeg faith communities have been and remain on the front lines of meeting the social needs of Winnipeggers. I take this opportunity to thank them for their quiet, faithful work bringing help and hope to people of all ages and walks of life. 

I envision a city where all partners, including faith communities, are at the table, appreciated, empowered and working together in a coordinated manner to address Winnipeg’s shared social challenges and seize our opportunities.  

As Mayor, I will lead the coordination of the contributions made by every sector, including faith communities, senior levels of government, Indigenous governments, the business community, educators, non-profits and more. Each sector has a role to play in building a stronger, healthier Winnipeg where all people have the opportunity to benefit. By coordinating our efforts we can identify and address areas of overlap and gaps so the people we are serving get the help they need. 

Over the past several months of my mayoral campaign I have been very engaged with various and diverse faith communities across Winnipeg. I am encouraged by their commitment to making Winnipeg a stronger city. They are dedicated to helping address the social needs many fellow-Winnipeggers face.  

Earlier this year, I used my social media platforms to denounce in the strongest terms the appearance of an antisemitic flag at a rally in Winnipeg. 

As Mayor, I will continue to denounce antisemitism, Islamophobia and will work to foster a city that is growing in mutual acceptance, understanding and appreciation.  

A few months ago, I attended a forum at the Grand Mosque on Waverley St hosted by the Manitoba Islamic Association. The topic of Islamphobia was discussed and was a followup to the recent report, ‘Community Experiences with Islamophobia’.  

The presence of the antisemitic flag and the report outlining the experiences forum shows Winnipeg still has work to do to eradicate hate and intolerance in our community.  

As Mayor, I will actively engage all faith and cultural communities to listen and understand what they are experiencing in Winnipeg. By knowing what communities are facing we can find ways to address it. I will work to make our city a place where all people feel welcome, safe and at home in Winnipeg.  

As a former pastor I can appreciate that some congregations with older buildings can get to the frustrating stage where they feel they are spending their time on money serving the building instead of the people of the community. 

As Mayor, I will be open to support rezoning of older church buildings so that appropriate adaptive reuse may be accommodated. For example, the conversion of St. Mathews Anglican Church to the West End Commons housing community is an example of an aging church building that was transformed into 26 apartments offered at affordable rents through a no-profit structure. 

I recognize that beyond the tangible work of addressing social needs, faith communities strengthen the fabric of our city by promoting values of love for others, generosity, honesty, service, mutual respect and hope. Lived out, these values strengthen individuals and build families. As Mayor, I will always appreciate the importance of faith communities to Winnipeg’s future hope and success. 

I am a Christian and attend church regularly.  

Kevin Klein 

First, thank you for reaching out to the candidates to address these challenges within the Faith-Based community. I imagine that over the years you have tried to reach out to those in power to achieve meaningful discussion and have received many empty promises. I will try to answer based on my proven track record and personal history.

There is a culture at City Hall that fears the repercussions of allowing religious groups to participate and receive funding for social issues in Winnipeg. I find this disappointing given how much help religious organizations give to the vulnerable. Every organization that provides service should have a seat at the table. There is a massive amount of funding that goes to organizations in the city but no accountability as to where the funding is going or what kind of results are achieved. 

When elected, I will open the opportunity for funding to any non-profit organization who is willing to help and will require more accountability from those already receiving funding to ensure that funding is being used wisely and prudently.

I am fortunate to have made many personal connections within both the Jewish and Muslim communities during my time in Winnipeg. I value them as friends and advisors and will continue to maintain these connections and listen as Mayor. I believe these connections with community leaders will enable me to be aware of issues quickly and I would rely on their input to treat them with the cultural sensitivity that they deserve and provide them with the assurance that their safety is crucial.

While church buildings are private property and do not fall under the purveyance of the city, I believe that we can still help make upkeep and renovations easier by making them less costly. During this campaign I have committed to reducing the cost of permits for non-profits by 75%. When elected mayor I would work with council to help them understand the importance of preserving these aging buildings within the communities that they serve.

I hope that I have answered your questions clearly. As a child I was often one of the vulnerable who relied on the charity of others, so I understand how important religious organizations are to the community.

Finally, I am reminded of a story my father-in-law (a retired minister) tells of how important it is to serve the community.

Their church building was next door to a middle-school and the kids who smoked would come hang out on the church steps as they couldn’t smoke on school property. Graffiti, destruction, and garbage became a huge issue. As opposed to forcing them off the property, the ladies of the church began a lunch program and invited the kids in for a free meal every week.

Not only did the graffiti and destruction stop, but years later my father-in-law would run into these kids who told him how that small act of kindness encouraged them to make different choices in life. 

Jenny Motkaluk

Religion/faith is a personal matter. The government doesn't and should never tell congregants what to believe. At the same time the good works that faith groups do is a reflection of their moral beliefs and support broader social goals. Where those efforts provide a benefit to the community as a whole, the City should be a good partner. Just as the City should be a good partner to anyone whose efforts will make Winnipeg stronger.  

Winnipeggers deserve leadership that supports the passion, ambitions, and dreams of all of us. Recently, I participated in the redevelopment of Augustine United Church into Augustine Centre, which includes Oak Table and SPLASH Daycare as two partners that offer substantial support to the broader community.  The City could have been a better partner in that process and when I'm Mayor, it will be. 

Winnipeg is a great city because of the people who choose to live here.  We are the most diverse city in the country and everyone who lives here is first and foremost a Winnipegger in my view. People who want to inject the violent politics of other countries halfway around the world into Winnipeg, must know that there will be zero tolerance for anything other than reasoned debate. I believe Israel has a right to exist.  

When Jews, Muslims or any other Winnipeggers are harassed and attacked in our city, I will speak out against it and take action. I reject Woke Culture, BDS, and equity policies because they are often used as a disguise for antisemitism and other forms of discrimination. 

Churches are a big part of the urban mosaic and many congregations are facing the same challenges of dwindling and aging membership which reduces their ability to maintain their Churches. Augustine Centre is a great example of a congregation responding to this challenge and should be looked on as a model for others, such as Rosh Pina which was recently listed for sale.  

Sadly, the City of Winnipeg acted more as a barrier to success in that project than a champion.  In particular, delays in the permit office proved very costly to their redevelopment efforts. As Mayor, I will create high performance departments so that City Hall starts working with us rather than against us. 

I identify as a Winnipegger.  As a kid, I was raised in the Ukrainian Catholic community, I went to Immaculate Heart of Mary School and attended several churches in the North End of Winnipeg, including St Joseph's and St Andrew's. 

Rana Bokhari 

Recognizing the challenges that marginalized, racialized and vulnerable people in our city face is one the most important issues in this campaign. How the government at all levels have addressed these issues thus far, is perhaps one of our society's greatest failures. As a Human Rights candidate, as a woman who believes that how we treat our most vulnerable is a reflection of our society—I believe that drug, addiction and mental health issues require all groups, community, faith and others partnering together to do better. 

I understand the challenges both the Jewish and Muslim communities face. I have lived experience dealing with Islamophobia. The City has a role to play in creating safe communities, safe places of worship and safety on the streets free from any violence rooted in antisemitism and Islamophobia. This starts with education, lifting the voices of those communities and ensuring that we come together to celebrate our achievements and also our hardships shoulder to shoulder. 

I acknowledge that some very important landmarks and old church buildings continue to serve invaluable services to all community members. Whether it is through programs, shelter, gathering spaces or food banks. 

One of the main pillars of my campaign is community, we would work together to ensure we are supporting the community who rely on these spaces by working with various Christian denominations that are continuing the great work despite all odds.